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By Dr. George N. Tzogopoulos

BESA Center Online Debate No. 8, March 22, 2018

Q: Following the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital by US President Donald Trump, President of the Palestinian Authority Mahmoud Abbas is counting on the EU to support his cause. In his January 2018 meeting with EU High Representative Federica Mogherini, he was assured “of the firm commitment of the EU to the two-state solution, with Jerusalem as shared capital of the two states – the State of Israel and the State of Palestine”. However, it remains questionable whether the EU has the necessary gravitas to play a catalytic political role in the peace process. BESA joins the debate by posing the question: Can Mahmoud Abbas achieve anything in Europe?

Respondents: Jonathan Schanzer, Alon Ben-Meir, Roland Freudenstein, Azriel Bermant, and Tsilla Hershco

 Jonathan Schanzer, Senior Vice President, Foundation for Defense of Democracies, Washington DC

Mahmoud Abbas has already gained quite a lot from the Europeans. He has the sympathies of the EU and the support of its Middle East negotiators. This was evident during the Obama years, as European leaders lined up behind the American president as he engaged in a campaign to isolate Israel for its settlement policy in the West Bank. It was also evident throughout Abbas’s stop-and-go “Palestine 194” campaign, during which the aging Palestinian leader sought and gained unofficial recognition of statehood at the General Assembly and a host of other UN agencies.

However, there is a limit to how much leverage Abbas can gain from Europe. This was as true during the Obama years as it is with the new administration. Abbas is learning that now as he courts the Europeans for support amidst an increasingly bitter spat with the White House over Palestinian Authority funding and transparency. The White House has the Palestinians on their heels, and the Europeans simply don’t wield enough power to change that dynamic. The more Abbas looks to the Europeans for help, the more power he is likely to lose. In the end, Washington always trumps Brussels.

Alon Ben-Meir, Professor and Senior Fellow at New York University’s Center for Global Affairs and Senior Fellow at the World Policy Institute, New York

The relationship between the EU and the PA has by and large been very positive, especially because the EU has been and continues to be the largest financial contributor to the PA. Moreover, the EU has always supported the two-state solution and has been openly critical of the occupation and the Israeli settlements, which it considers a major obstacle to peace.

Due to Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, Abbas wrongly concluded that the US can no longer be a neutral interlocutor, which flies in the face of the reality that the US is the only country that can exact any meaningful concession from Israel to achieve peace.

Moreover, whereas the EU is sympathetic to the Palestinian stance, it can do very little to change the dynamic of the peace process on its own. Hence, it is unrealistic for the PA to hope that the EU can revive the peace negotiations, particularly because the EU has limited sway over Israel. Abbas’s requests for the European community to recognize the Palestinian state may sway some nations to do so, but that would only harden the Israeli position.

Hence, Abbas’s decision to sidestep the US will simply go nowhere. He will have to come to the table sooner or later knowing that America’s role in the peace process has been, and will continue to be, indispensable.

Roland Freudenstein, Policy Director, Wilfried Martens Centre for European Studies, Brussels

Certainly, President Trump’s decision to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel has led many in Europe to side more openly with the Palestinian Authority (PA), if only to spite Trump. In that respect, it made sense for PA leader Mahmoud Abbas to visit Europe in a renewed push to get more EU member states, and maybe the EU as a whole, to recognize Palestine as a sovereign state. Alas, there are still too many in Europe who see the futility of such a recognition in the absence of a peace agreement. Such an agreement would have to include not only two sovereign states, but also comprehensive security guarantees for Israel – after several wars of annihilation waged against it from Palestinian territory as well as from neighboring Arab states.

But if there is no recognition by the whole EU, Abbas asked European leaders, could there be at least an association agreement between the EU and the PA? This again was answered negatively by most EU leaders (with the notable exception of France) precisely because Palestine is not a sovereign state, and the PA is barely in control of the West Bank and certainly not of Gaza under Hamas. So, for the moment, the only thing Abbas might have achieved is a push to increase EU financial assistance to the PA – with the well-known problems of massive corruption and incitement to terrorism which are endemic in the PA. Quite an achievement, Mr. Abbas!

Azriel Bermant, Historian and Lecturer in International Relations at Tel Aviv University and at the Rothberg International School, Hebrew University of Jerusalem. Author of Margaret Thatcher and the Middle East(2016, Cambridge University Press)

In the wake of President Trump’s announcement recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, it is understandable that Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas would head for Europe to shore up his position.  The Palestinians snubbed US VP Mike Pence during his recent trip to the Middle East, and have declared that the Americans will no longer have an exclusive role to play as a mediator. The Europeans will do what they can to save the two-state solution, and Abbas traveled to Europe well aware that he would receive the red carpet treatment. During his meeting with EU High Representative for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy Federica Mogherini in Brussels, Abbas pleaded for EU member states to recognize a Palestinian state. Slovenia may be about to do so.

If several EU member states take such a step, this would provide a short-term morale boost for the Palestinian leader. However, EU member states are divided on Israel/Palestine and Mogherini would be well aware that no progress is possible without constructive American leadership. This is in short supply at present. Europe will be unable to improve the prospects for Palestinian independence and drive negotiations forward when the minimal demands of Israelis and Palestinians are unbridgeable and the US president is busy sabotaging his own supposed deal of the century to end the conflict between Israelis and the Palestinians.

Tsilla Hershco, Research Associate, BESA Center, Bar-Ilan University

Over the years, Europe has gradually supported the upgrade of the status of the Palestinian Authority.  For instance, Europe supported Abbas’s unilateral request to grant the Palestinian Authority non-member observer state status at the UN General Assembly (November 2012).  Europe has systematically and one-sidedly condemned Israeli settlements in Judea and Samaria as a major factor in undermining the peace process, while ignoring the Palestinians’ incitements and acts of terror as a major factor that led to a deadlock in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations. Recently Europe unequivocally supported Abbas’s denunciation of Trump’s recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital.

It is reasonable to assume that Europe will continue to provide economic and political support to the Palestinians as this support remains one of the few areas of agreement among the member states, who are divided on numerous major issues such as the common budget, common defense policy, immigration, counter-terrorism, etc. Concurrently, there are still prospects that France’s President Emmanuel Macron will continue to oppose unilateral moves regarding the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Macron’s opposition to unilateral steps is significant due to his growing influence within the EU. In addition, Eastern European countries that maintain close ties with Israel are likely to oppose extreme unilateral moves such as supporting Abbas’s demand for the UN recognition of a Palestinian state.

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US Ambassador to the UN, Nikki Haley explains that a lack of Palestinian leadership is what prevents Peace.

Also see:

Palestinians? What Palestinians?

Who are the Palestinians?

Palestinians Attained ‘Failed State’ Status Even Before it Was Established

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Or maybe you can…..

The snarky looking blonde is Ahed Tamimi , aka Shirley Temper.

She is the poster “child” for so-called oppressed “Palestinian” youth.

Repeatedly used by her terror-tied family, her MO is to accost, harangue and physically harass IDF troops for the sole purpose of eliciting an embarrassing response, all while being recorded on video.

Recently she attacked an Israeli soldier who took her punches and did nothing.

Three days later she was arrested for her actions and now she and her enablers and other anti-Semites are crying foul.

She is currently being used to highlight ( and a bill is before the house to condemn Israel) the plight of “Palestinian children” arrested by Israel.

She is at least 16 years old, possibly 17 or 18. Under “Palestinian” law she has reached the age of majority.

Muslims think nothing of making a bride of a 10-year-old.

That’s a full-grown woman, but a 17-year-old arrested by the IDF is a child?

Some of her fellow “children” serving time have been convicted of normal childhood hi-jinks such as arson and murder.

Typical “Palestinian” bullshit.

Another fabrication of “Palestinians” is that the Israelis are white colonial oppressors and they are people of “color”.

The brunette girl in the photo giving Ahed the snake-eye is an Israeli Jew, as is the other police officer on her right, who is also 20 shades darker than his prisoner.


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New York City Police Shoot Unarmed Muslim Truck Driver

This is what the headlines look like when terror acts like the one that took place in Manhattan are perpetrated in Israel.

In spite of the fact that American news stories refer to truck attacks that have happened in France, Germany and England, the Israelis were the first victims of vehicle attacks.

Add this to the list of “Palestinian” contributions to world culture, along with plane hijackings and  suicide vest bombings.

Somehow different parameters exist when the terrorists call themselves Palestinian and the victims are Jews.

Maybe we need to increase truck regulations.

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Forty-five years ago this week the world received the honor of another “Palestinian” creation.

Arab Muslims labelled Palestinian savagely tortured and murdered eleven Israeli athletes at the Olympic Village in Munich.

Among other pastimes devised by “Palestinians” that have been emulated by Arab Muslims at large are:

Airplane hijackings

School shootings

Suicide/homicide exploding vest attacks

Knife attacks

Car and truck attacks

If only we would give them everything they want the world could be perfect.

Yasir Arafat, the chic magnet

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He most likely never said this, but he is associated with this like “Play it again Sam”, is with Humphrey Bogart even though he never said that either.

“Who are these people?”

Answering that musical question is a paper by Dr. Alex Joffe.

Alex will next address the people of Fredonia, Lilliput, and the Grand Duchy of Fenwick.

Not to see Dr. Joffe out of work, but hopefully the myth of ancient Palestinians will be held in the same regard as the lunar composition of green cheese.

                         Gay Palestinian attempting to kiss Israeli soldier.

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No, I’m not referring to the act of impressing your friends by burning rubber with a  350 horsepower 1968 Firebird.

This is about the 80th anniversary of the first time Arabs, in British Mandate Palestine, rejected the offer of having a free and independent state of their own.

After rioting by Arabs there in 1936, the British convened the Royal Palestine Commission, headed by Lord Peel and informally known as the Peel commission.

It recommended to the League of Nations that territories under the mandate be partitioned into a Jewish state and an Arab state.

Accepted by Jewish leadership Arabs in Mandatory Palestine and Arab sovereigns turned it down.

No occupation.

No settlements.

No checkpoints.

Jews living independently in their own indigenous homeland was then and still is now the only reason peace there remains elusive.

The crime against humanity here is not that Palestinian Arabs did not get their own country, but that Palestinian Jews had no country to shelter millions of Jews who suffered and were murdered at the hands of Europe’s Nazis.


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Michael Bennett announced this week that he would not take part in a scheduled trip to Israel with other NFL players, with the Seattle Seahawks lineman saying, “I will not be used” as a pawn by the Israeli government in a heartfelt statement he tweeted Friday.

“When I do go to Israel — and I do plan to go — it will be to see not only Israel but also the West Bank and Gaza so I can see how the Palestinians, who have called this home for thousands of years, live their lives,” Bennett wrote.

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Where is the outrage over the extrajudicial killing of an innocent teenager in Columbus, Ohio?

Why aren’t his actions being justified as the Ohio colonists are occupying native lands?

This is what happens when the exact same incident occurs in Israel when the victims are Jews and the attacking animal happens to be “Palestinian”.

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Yesterday 13 year old Hallel Yaffa Ariel was murdered in her bed by a sub-human piece of shit who was deservedly shot dead.

His mother declared him to be a hero who died defending Jerusalem and the Al-Aqsa Mosque.

No mention of the occupation, poverty, discrimination, social justice, check points or displacement.

Because it is only about denying Jews the right to their indigenous homeland.

Just like when Jews were murdered in Hebron, (close to where Hallel was murdered) in 1929.

No ’67 borders then.

No occupation.

No State of Israel.

Just Jews living where Arab Muslims are close enough to kill them.

And they will do it anywhere in the world they have the means and ability

They claim they want their own country of “Palestine” but the country they really want is Shahidistan.

If these mongrel jackals are so eager to be martyrs then we should do everything in our power to oblige them and wipe them from the face of the earth.

Artzenu shelanu motherfuckers.

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