Comments on: Jimmy Carter’s Siren Song http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/ An American 'Tough Love' Blog With an Irreverent Brew of Wit, Humor and Satire Fri, 10 Oct 2008 21:11:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: Lance http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/#comment-105 Lance Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:22:05 +0000 http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/#comment-105 I lived in NC awhile back. All the dry counties ran bootleg liquor. Every one of the main bootleggers I knew were leaders in the Baptist Congregations or ministers of Baptist churches. I couldn't believe it. These guys controlled many small towns like Islamic imams do their brethren. I also have many SBs in my family. Biggest hypocrites I ever knew. They're elitists, and would have nothing to do with anybody not in their flock. All this hubris is hilarious, coming from a bunch of ignorant hillbillies. It made me decide NEVER to have anything to do with the SBC. Too damned corrupt and filled with false Christians. ANY changes made in the SBC could only be good. I lived in NC awhile back. All the dry counties ran bootleg liquor. Every one of the main bootleggers I knew were leaders in the Baptist Congregations or ministers of Baptist churches. I couldn’t believe it. These guys controlled many small towns like Islamic imams do their brethren.

I also have many SBs in my family. Biggest hypocrites I ever knew. They’re elitists, and would have nothing to do with anybody not in their flock.

All this hubris is hilarious, coming from a bunch of ignorant hillbillies.

It made me decide NEVER to have anything to do with the SBC. Too damned corrupt and filled with false Christians.

ANY changes made in the SBC could only be good.

]]> By: Lance http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/#comment-104 Lance Wed, 07 Feb 2007 22:15:33 +0000 http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/#comment-104 David, Perhaps you should read this: <a href="http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/stories/2007/01/09/0110metcarter.html" rel="nofollow">Carter, Clinton woo Baptists to new coalition</a> And the Southern Baptists could use a good house-cleaning anyway. The holier-than-thou hubris runs amok down thar! David,

Perhaps you should read this: Carter, Clinton woo Baptists to new coalition

And the Southern Baptists could use a good house-cleaning anyway. The holier-than-thou hubris runs amok down thar!

]]> By: David Sapp http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/#comment-100 David Sapp Wed, 07 Feb 2007 20:26:22 +0000 http://tmq2.wordpress.com/2007/02/02/jimmy-carters-siren-song/#comment-100 Mr. Wilson owes us Baptists an apology. He has based an opinion piece in a major national newspaper on erroneous information about the plans for a new Baptist Covenant. No one has proposed a new Baptist convention. No one "patently seeks to establish a rival to the SBC." And no one involved thinks that a new Baptist Covenant can accomplish the things Mr. Wilson attributes to its desires. The new Baptist covenant is an effort to reestablish cooperative efforts between Baptist groups which have been divided since before the Civil War. It is a call for existing conventions to cooperate on such global problems as poverty and hunger. It is an effort to heal divisions between Baptists north and south, black and white. It was the press which substituted the word "convetion" for the word covenant. The planners neither used the word nor had the intention of estabilishing a new Baptist Convention. The press also has tried to cast this very noble effort as a political ploy. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton just happen to be the only two living ex-presidents who are Baptist. Are they to be prohibited from exercising statesmanship among their own fellow believers? Many Republicans as well as Democrats are involved. Most sadly of all to me as a Baptist minister, is the fact that Mr. Wilson profoundly misunderstands Baptists. He does not understand how our polity works, what the issues are among us, or what it is we are trying to accomplish. He has simply allowed his political bias to shape his entire view of a noble effort to bring healing to a badly divided people. David Sapp Mr. Wilson owes us Baptists an apology. He has based an opinion piece in a major national newspaper on erroneous information about the plans for a new Baptist Covenant. No one has proposed a new Baptist convention. No one “patently seeks to establish a rival to the SBC.” And no one involved thinks that a new Baptist Covenant can accomplish the things Mr. Wilson attributes to its desires.

The new Baptist covenant is an effort to reestablish cooperative efforts between Baptist groups which have been divided since before the Civil War. It is a call for existing conventions to cooperate on such global problems as poverty and hunger. It is an effort to heal divisions between Baptists north and south, black and white.

It was the press which substituted the word “convetion” for the word covenant. The planners neither used the word nor had the intention of estabilishing a new Baptist Convention. The press also has tried to cast this very noble effort as a political ploy. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton just happen to be the only two living ex-presidents who are Baptist. Are they to be prohibited from exercising statesmanship among their own fellow believers? Many Republicans as well as Democrats are involved.

Most sadly of all to me as a Baptist minister, is the fact that Mr. Wilson profoundly misunderstands Baptists. He does not understand how our polity works, what the issues are among us, or what it is we are trying to accomplish. He has simply allowed his political bias to shape his entire view of a noble effort to bring healing to a badly divided people.

David Sapp

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